After viruses, genes, enzymes, pcr tests, space exploration… seems to be even too obvious… Sometimes I think whether there is anything valid/real/feasible in what thier propaganda pushes onto the society. Strangness of this created by bullshits World is trully massive.
Israel allegedly possesses them but has not used them. Knowing everything we do about the primacy of terrorism in the founding of Israel, this is hard to believe.
FYI, So I saw an interview on YouTube 15 years ago? Never sure. There was a Catholic priest being interviewed, he stated there was only “ fire bombing “ no nukes, he was hiding underground in an area struck by the fire bombs. I remember at the time saying too myself, “I’m not ever mentioning this conspiracy theory.” Everyone I know already disrespects me because of my conspiracy theories, imagine laying this one on them?
Considering the amount of “obsolete” weaponry that has been shipped to Ukraine these past few years, is it beyond the imagination to think that they could move an enormous amount of surplus explosives to a site, mixed with chemical weapons, & detonated to simulate a “mushroom cloud & fallout” claiming “somebody” has created a nuclear strike & sparking WW3? Think “Russiagate” “Weapons of Mass Destruction” “Saddams yellowcake from Niger” (& those tubes) & several other FABULOUS LIES.
What about the extensive footage of nuclear tests and the blast craters that can still be seen today? That seems like better evidence that nukes exist than these three myths (which I agree are not very convincing).
Craters in themselves are not proof either. You could create a massive crater with conventional explosives or just physically dig a huge hole. With the passage of all this time, it would be even harder to know how the crater was made. Personally I am inclined to doubt they exist for a number of reasons, but even if they did exist at all, it is unlikely that they could be reliably deployed. Also, when you consider all the calculations we done manually, surely after all this time, some terrorist group or rogue regime with the right funding and a basic laptop would have figured it out by now, not to mention both accidental or even deliberate deployment by one of the many countries said to officially have nuclear weapons. Also what about the much talked about tactic nuclear weapons? Aren’t they supposed to be on a tiny scale to cause a death blow to an enemy but restricting wider fallout? Surely use of such weapons would have been justified numerous times over the last few decades by our war mongering politicians.
I agree with you that craters aren't proof by themselves. For example, a crater at a supposed nuclear test site like Bikini Atoll could have been formed by conventional explosives. If the US military were deliberately trying to create the illusion of nuclear weapons, we would even expect them to do stuff like this. However, there are other examples that I can't so easily explain. In particular, I'm thinking of the 2020 Beirut Port explosion which created a 43-m deep crater. Officially, the explanation was that 2,700 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stacked on a warehouse floor caused the explosion. However, there's extensive data on cratering by explosives that contradict the official story. A surface charge of that size can at most create a crater of 5 meters. Whatever created that explosion was much larger and/or buried much deeper than what they are claiming. How were thousands of tons of chemical explosive smuggled and buried in a busy port without detection? That would require the logistics of a large construction project. A buried tactical nuke seems far more plausible in this scenario. You should look at the work of Bruce Baird who makes a strong case that tactical nuclear weapons have indeed been used many times in the past few decades. One of the advantages of tactical nukes is that they provide deniability.
I’m glad you mentioned the Beirut explosion. Ironically, for me I saw it as an example of the force of a conventional explosion. At the same time, it’s hard not to assume this explosion was deliberate and I’m sure organisations such as US intelligence would be able to set up something like that. And surely a tactical nuke would leave significant traces of radiation behind and someone would be bound to pick up on that. The other thing is that what we think we know about weapons capabilities is at least 20 years out of date. Assuming nukes don’t exist doesn’t rule out progress in conventional weapons. We only have to look at what conventional bombs could do in WW2 compared to the destructive power of today’s known conventional weapons to know they never stop trying to push the boundaries of what’s possible. It also doesn’t rule out that, assuming nukes still don’t exist, that they haven’t stopped trying to develop them.
Thanks for the reference to Bruce Baird. I’ve not come across that name before will try to read up on what he has to say.
Yes me, I’ve seen them constructing two stories of dynamite in the desert then they explode it, capturing it on film miles away claiming it’s a nuclear explosion. Just because you and I don’t know the particulars of how they accomplish there magic feats doesn’t mean there not accomplishing there goals of manipulation. You insist on believing there’s nukes, with zero proof, just speculation and theories.
Observationally only, not disagreeing but exploring say the Emperor's New Toy, what benefit to rival Superpowers agreeing in the fraud? Now entirely reasonable the agreement is due to a larger agreement for world government. The SF writer Robert Heinlein explored use of using radioactive weapons in 1941. He retired from the Navy in 1934.
Clearly the non-existence of nuclear weapons would imply our understanding of governments is incorrect - just false fronts. Perhaps HG Wells and the other science fiction writers had the last laugh - you can actually terrorize the public through fiction.
Interesting theory. I am not saying I agree or disagree, but it does seem the bigger the lie the easier to sell.
As you said , if true this implies some very important things. Things that may be independently true.
While I could build a case as to why "they" would want to lie about it..
I have also read a solid theory that postulates those were Nazi nukes used in Japan confiscated by the US Military after Germany's surrender. That would also imply some important things as well. (Like the Oppenheimer mythology being a lie)
I am mostly agnostic on this because I know they have the power to lie about such things. I am now very skeptical of positions I cannot independently verify. I suspect they exist, but I do not think we know much of the real truth either way.
I remember (vaguely) reading a story about Hitler escaping to South America, “Operation Gray Wolf”? But in the book there is an account of the Germans loading a cargo labelled U-235 onto a U-Boat (submarine). So the sailors were laughing at the “Government’s incompetence” because their boat was U-237, & they thought it funny that they were receiving the wrong cargo to deliver to their ally, Japan.
Reality vs. Fiction is inside our heads until it ain’t. I have been recently listening to Terence McKenna online. I guess as we mature we look back and I’m after Covid thinking back to the SF I grew up reading and the history taught to me, the philosophy and the sciences that follow -anthropology and this and that of our hour.
Herodotus was the father of lies.
At 68 delighting in life on razor edge because my 15 minute City is downtown San Francisco on foot and Marin county by Bus.
It's all about being able to pocket the money you think has been spent on nuclear weapons, or have a good reason to stiff you with the bill on the national tab (which lets them steal even more). Rival Superpowers makes reckless spending an imperative, on both sides, so drinks all round! Government is *entirely* about fleecing the electorate. Once you see this you can easily see the merry-go-round of elite projects swinging by, Covid being especially profitable. They don't seem to get out of bed these days for less than a quarter of a trillion, though they easily cleared that with both Covid and the 2008 banking crash. None of these things is "organic".
After viruses, genes, enzymes, pcr tests, space exploration… seems to be even too obvious… Sometimes I think whether there is anything valid/real/feasible in what thier propaganda pushes onto the society. Strangness of this created by bullshits World is trully massive.
Israel allegedly possesses them but has not used them. Knowing everything we do about the primacy of terrorism in the founding of Israel, this is hard to believe.
Yes dude! This for me is the strongest sign that they are fictitious. If those psychos really have 'em, they would have used them by now.
FYI, So I saw an interview on YouTube 15 years ago? Never sure. There was a Catholic priest being interviewed, he stated there was only “ fire bombing “ no nukes, he was hiding underground in an area struck by the fire bombs. I remember at the time saying too myself, “I’m not ever mentioning this conspiracy theory.” Everyone I know already disrespects me because of my conspiracy theories, imagine laying this one on them?
Pretty much seems like we are on the yellow brick road...maybe even in a dream?
yes "nukes" are fake just like "viruses"
Considering the amount of “obsolete” weaponry that has been shipped to Ukraine these past few years, is it beyond the imagination to think that they could move an enormous amount of surplus explosives to a site, mixed with chemical weapons, & detonated to simulate a “mushroom cloud & fallout” claiming “somebody” has created a nuclear strike & sparking WW3? Think “Russiagate” “Weapons of Mass Destruction” “Saddams yellowcake from Niger” (& those tubes) & several other FABULOUS LIES.
What about the extensive footage of nuclear tests and the blast craters that can still be seen today? That seems like better evidence that nukes exist than these three myths (which I agree are not very convincing).
As far as I am aware - no movies of nuclear explosions were released in real time - ie pre-21st century.
Interesting, I will have to look into it more. I've always assumed that footage was released much earlier
Craters in themselves are not proof either. You could create a massive crater with conventional explosives or just physically dig a huge hole. With the passage of all this time, it would be even harder to know how the crater was made. Personally I am inclined to doubt they exist for a number of reasons, but even if they did exist at all, it is unlikely that they could be reliably deployed. Also, when you consider all the calculations we done manually, surely after all this time, some terrorist group or rogue regime with the right funding and a basic laptop would have figured it out by now, not to mention both accidental or even deliberate deployment by one of the many countries said to officially have nuclear weapons. Also what about the much talked about tactic nuclear weapons? Aren’t they supposed to be on a tiny scale to cause a death blow to an enemy but restricting wider fallout? Surely use of such weapons would have been justified numerous times over the last few decades by our war mongering politicians.
I agree with you that craters aren't proof by themselves. For example, a crater at a supposed nuclear test site like Bikini Atoll could have been formed by conventional explosives. If the US military were deliberately trying to create the illusion of nuclear weapons, we would even expect them to do stuff like this. However, there are other examples that I can't so easily explain. In particular, I'm thinking of the 2020 Beirut Port explosion which created a 43-m deep crater. Officially, the explanation was that 2,700 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stacked on a warehouse floor caused the explosion. However, there's extensive data on cratering by explosives that contradict the official story. A surface charge of that size can at most create a crater of 5 meters. Whatever created that explosion was much larger and/or buried much deeper than what they are claiming. How were thousands of tons of chemical explosive smuggled and buried in a busy port without detection? That would require the logistics of a large construction project. A buried tactical nuke seems far more plausible in this scenario. You should look at the work of Bruce Baird who makes a strong case that tactical nuclear weapons have indeed been used many times in the past few decades. One of the advantages of tactical nukes is that they provide deniability.
I’m glad you mentioned the Beirut explosion. Ironically, for me I saw it as an example of the force of a conventional explosion. At the same time, it’s hard not to assume this explosion was deliberate and I’m sure organisations such as US intelligence would be able to set up something like that. And surely a tactical nuke would leave significant traces of radiation behind and someone would be bound to pick up on that. The other thing is that what we think we know about weapons capabilities is at least 20 years out of date. Assuming nukes don’t exist doesn’t rule out progress in conventional weapons. We only have to look at what conventional bombs could do in WW2 compared to the destructive power of today’s known conventional weapons to know they never stop trying to push the boundaries of what’s possible. It also doesn’t rule out that, assuming nukes still don’t exist, that they haven’t stopped trying to develop them.
Thanks for the reference to Bruce Baird. I’ve not come across that name before will try to read up on what he has to say.
An artist provides his analysis of the photographic evidence:
https://theresearchofmilesmathis.substack.com/p/nukes
Is anyone really disputing the destructive power of the “atom bombs” ?
Yes me, I’ve seen them constructing two stories of dynamite in the desert then they explode it, capturing it on film miles away claiming it’s a nuclear explosion. Just because you and I don’t know the particulars of how they accomplish there magic feats doesn’t mean there not accomplishing there goals of manipulation. You insist on believing there’s nukes, with zero proof, just speculation and theories.
Yep, I am, for one. All faked. Just a way to steal your money, like everything else.
They dont work by splitting atoms
https://substack.com/profile/227515070-roman-empire/note/c-99426239
Observationally only, not disagreeing but exploring say the Emperor's New Toy, what benefit to rival Superpowers agreeing in the fraud? Now entirely reasonable the agreement is due to a larger agreement for world government. The SF writer Robert Heinlein explored use of using radioactive weapons in 1941. He retired from the Navy in 1934.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution_Unsatisfactory
Clearly the non-existence of nuclear weapons would imply our understanding of governments is incorrect - just false fronts. Perhaps HG Wells and the other science fiction writers had the last laugh - you can actually terrorize the public through fiction.
Interesting theory. I am not saying I agree or disagree, but it does seem the bigger the lie the easier to sell.
As you said , if true this implies some very important things. Things that may be independently true.
While I could build a case as to why "they" would want to lie about it..
I have also read a solid theory that postulates those were Nazi nukes used in Japan confiscated by the US Military after Germany's surrender. That would also imply some important things as well. (Like the Oppenheimer mythology being a lie)
I am mostly agnostic on this because I know they have the power to lie about such things. I am now very skeptical of positions I cannot independently verify. I suspect they exist, but I do not think we know much of the real truth either way.
I remember (vaguely) reading a story about Hitler escaping to South America, “Operation Gray Wolf”? But in the book there is an account of the Germans loading a cargo labelled U-235 onto a U-Boat (submarine). So the sailors were laughing at the “Government’s incompetence” because their boat was U-237, & they thought it funny that they were receiving the wrong cargo to deliver to their ally, Japan.
Reality vs. Fiction is inside our heads until it ain’t. I have been recently listening to Terence McKenna online. I guess as we mature we look back and I’m after Covid thinking back to the SF I grew up reading and the history taught to me, the philosophy and the sciences that follow -anthropology and this and that of our hour.
Herodotus was the father of lies.
At 68 delighting in life on razor edge because my 15 minute City is downtown San Francisco on foot and Marin county by Bus.
It's all about being able to pocket the money you think has been spent on nuclear weapons, or have a good reason to stiff you with the bill on the national tab (which lets them steal even more). Rival Superpowers makes reckless spending an imperative, on both sides, so drinks all round! Government is *entirely* about fleecing the electorate. Once you see this you can easily see the merry-go-round of elite projects swinging by, Covid being especially profitable. They don't seem to get out of bed these days for less than a quarter of a trillion, though they easily cleared that with both Covid and the 2008 banking crash. None of these things is "organic".
“Profit” makes the situation so interesting. The benefit, “profit” from the “Satanic.”
Yes. Profit is so much easier if you're prepared to lie, cheat, steal and kill; and if you have immunity from prosecution.